Just thought I do a quick writeup about my encounter here while my memory is still fresh. Only expense I had was the dinner, the girl was paid for by my friend. It was basically an honest tinder profile without the cringey quotes, bad photoshops and pictures taken five years ago before the woman decided she identified as a land whale.
It was refreshing to say the least; pic-wise and from her description the girl sounded like a straight 10, not gonna lie here folks.
A day before our meet-up I called her on the work phone to check some formalities. She was accommodating and eager to please. It was a friendly and no BS approach from her part. She asked me what I wanted her to wear, if i had any special requests e. I told her under which name I booked the table and that I would meet here there at 7pm; to test if she was actually committed to the whole thing I requested her wearing natural makeup, french nails, a tight black dress and high heels;.
I chose one of my favorite restaurants in the city for the date. A place I've been frequenting for years now and where I know all the waiters and even the owner; where I can come in on a Saturday evening and still get a table.
If I wanted to to close the deal with a woman I'd always take her there. Being greeted on a first name basis and having a chat with the owner or getting an amuse-bouche from the chef has never failed to impress any girl; it shows social status and makes you interesting. The restaurant was a semi-upscale place but not pretentious. I'm talking proper shoes, pants and a shirt but nothing over the top.
I arrived at the restaurant at 7pm sharp and she was already seated. To my surprise she was exactly as advertised. It was probably the first time in my life where the pictures actually didn't do her justice - funny because usually it's always the other way around, either with height, weight, skin and whatnot.
When she saw me approaching, she smiled, got up and gave me a hug and a kiss on the mouth. It was all very natural and to observers we probably looked like a regular couple. I guess that's what they call the 'girlfriend experience' where those escorts actually make an effort to be caring and attentive - opposed to the ever increasing starfish experience you get these days. She also had thought about my requests wore the black dress, shoes and french nails. To tell you right away, it was probably the best dinner date I've had to this day.
There was no BS 'flirty' talk and negging to keep the girl entertained with the hopes to get laid, nor her being on her phone actually she didn't pull it out once or talking about pointless shit like 'finding herself' or those 'horrible men' she always came across.
You tend to underestimate it but the thought of guaranteed sex at the end of the day, no matter what, is just relieving. Not only do you make sure you don't waste time, effort and money but you can also enjoy your fucking meal without the usual and pointless chit chat that just makes my brain bleed.
I guess you get what you pay for, eh? We talked about a variety of interesting topics - red pill and random - and it was a very pleasant experience over all.
She obviously knew how to keep a conversation going - on of the perks of being an escort I bet ;. Interestingly enough, the girl also stated in the bio and interest section on her website that she's an admirer of a certain classical composer. Coincidentally, I went to a Conservatorium with a heavy focus on classical music for 7 years and put her knowledge to the test. Turned out you could actually have an in-depth conversation about said composer with her.
So she didn't lie there either. They often feel threatened at my very presence, shun me and try to ruin my reputation among all of their friends. When I tell them that I don't fuck sleazy guys in nightclubs every weekend for free, but instead travel the world and can pick my clients who treat me well they usually just reply that 'its just college and everybody is partying'. Yes folks, we knew it all along. Nobody sluts shames as much as women, When it comes to being cruel and having a crab bucket mentality they are the champions.
All of them are married and have kids, and all of them are miserable. They come to me to forget their horrible wives that they cannot divorce for monetary reasons. Wives that haven't put out in months or even years but at the same time lust after their son's football coaches and teachers. Those men are the worst because they are absolutely broken. They have money, great business success but are always held back by their awful marriages - life ruined basically.
Then I have the happy clients that are usually in their mid 20's to 30's that don't have girlfriends and aren't married - by choice. Majority of them are eligible and successful bachelors that most women would love to put a ring on. They are't looking for cheap women in clubs nor for divorced single mothers that want another provider.
They are usually fed up with the current dating market and the whole gender dynamic that we have now. Don't marry and don't have kids if you wanna be on the safe side. The majority of men are simply not realizing that most women have endless men at their disposal, literally a phone call away.
Men they would call if their main guys had a football game going and were unavailable. If those girls were horny and wanted quick sex and a free meal they'd text them. Yes boys, there you have it. You cannot own a women it's just your turn.
And don't have your hopes up too high - the next Plan-D-guy is just a phone call away. I don't want kids nor marriage at the moment but if I tried, I could probably get married to a really wealthy client within the next 6 months. The majority of men these days are just happy that someone wants to marry them. I knew a girl that was of Mormon faith and went to the Emirates to work in an organisation of her church.
She got involved with wealthy locals and before she knew was the star at local gang bang parties. When her boyfriend at home found out she just said something about the devil and the struggle of finding back to her spirituality. They are married now with 3 kids. At our price tag we can't afford to be flakes or to underperform. Our clients have high expectations and want the very best.
Our body is our toolkit. Staying young, healthy and beautiful is most important. Most of my escort friends need to be cultured as well. I'd say everyone speaks at least two languages and has a general understanding about higher culture such as arts, food, music. If a client wants to take you out to a Michelin restaurant and to the Opera afterwards, you need to know how to act and carry yourself. There's no animosity in my circle of escorts, in fact we often work together if a client wants to have a three- or foursome.
Nothing really to add except that she really had a killer body, all natural and very, very clean and groomed. Perfect nails, brazilian waxed rear and front, laser hair removel on legs, fit body etc. Most of her friends I've seen on other websites do indeed look very classy and not cheap at all. Since this is not a porn sub, I'll spare you the details.
Tight body, very clean and perfectly groomed. Basically someone that put a lot of effort and work into making their body the most aesthetic it can be. She was enthusiastic and her performance was great, it's all about what YOU want. Basically you decide what to do and she'll follow orders. Want her to wear a plug or nipple clamps or certain kind of lingerie - no problem she'll do it. Want her to have a landing strip instead of a Brazilian - she got you covered. Yup, she'll be happy to put on a show for you.
So yeah it's just awesome what money can buy you here. Absolutely no comparison to the starfish girls, sleazy clubbers or other damaged goods you find on the regular market. One of the most refreshing and best experiences I had with a girl ever. Straight up and no BS.
Not worrying about cringey text game before to get her to reply, no weird phone calls afterwards to know what you're up to.
Cultured and can hold a convo, won't embarrass you in front of strangers or friends. No worries about pregnancy or other blackmail shit from her part. Knows to dress and act her part. A lady in the streets and a whore in the sheets. If I got fuck you money right now, I'd do this every week, you'd never see me looking at regular girls again: I'm working on that part but until then, just a little reminder that if you're successful there's an alternative to tinder, bargirls or single mothers.
Also fucking sad that nowadays, the escorts seem to be a better catch than their 'normal' counterparts. Just shows you the current state of the market really I started working at a small law firm and made myself available to my boss whenever.
Ended up having drinks a few times and became his sounding board. This turned into him taking me to a big trial. You could say I befriended him. Because the money doesn't mean much to him, he knew how much I would appreciate it, and 'we're in this war together'. Wholeheartedly offer what you've got and you will find someone who appreciates it and has no problem showing you. And the best thing a wealthy friend can do for you is introducing you to their wealthy connections.
Well- the main lesson is actually: Interestingly enough, I've noticed that it is the guys with 'game' tall, good-looking, fit, cool, etc that waste their lives on starfish skanks, while the short ugly guys spend their life making money and enjoy it with high-class escorts. Now I'm starting to think they have the right idea. I think that's because the short ugly guy's have more motivation to get their shit together financially as a way to get women.
The young guy being primed for eventual leadership gets enough of a taste of what life could be like to hook in him with the full buy-in.
He would be thrown this kind of bone if his performance lined up correctly. Women are not immune to this either. The Kimmie Belzers of the world are just as easily led and driven - only with them its a Chanel perfumes and designer clothing they could only previously dream about. Her rates would be per hour here because the market is saturated.
They spill over into Alberta and think they're exotic because they're "french". I would do the same for a friend if I had the cash, and I know for a fact some of my friends would do the same. Getting a high end escort like that implies that he's in some very wealthy circles, and seeing as how the prostitute in question was very high end, it's not the same as buying some cheap two bit hooker for your boys.
It's a substantial gift from a monetary perspective. If the rich werent' ok with fucking high end escorts, there wouldn't be a huge market for it at the current rates. She is a business woman, arguably an actress by trade, if she is good at what she does OP will have no way of finding out what she really is like. Corroborating op's belief that women are not worth long term relationships means repeat business for the girl.
All women are whores. I don't mean it in the insulting sense. Every man pays to get laid. At least with escorts the terms are transparent and both sides have about the same negotiation power.
And it seems they are better at pleasing a man than the average woman. The only thing an escort can't provide is the feeling of masculinity you get when a woman truly desires you. You pay for pussy with time or money. Only difference is, you can always make more money. Time spent on pursuing your oneitis though? The women who are "strong and independent" are the ones who pay.
Most women take up that hard, uncompromising hollow feminist identity to mask their insecurities and their lack of sexual success. But when they get an alpha in bed, how quickly she turns into a submissive whore will make a beta's head spin. And all of a sudden she is no longer "strong," nor is she "independent. I'd rather her tell me what I want to hear, than bore the shit out of me with garbage I don't care about, followed by a complaint and childish whine.
You're paying her for the experience; she delivered. Who really cares if it's how she feels. It's not an LTR or anything like that. It also sounds like OP will probably not see this escort for a while because she's expensive.
Both parties get what they want, so I don't really see the problem. Great experience, but I don't know if you can really put stock into what she says. She's still being paid for her time so her answers may be guarded as to not disagree with you. I'm saying she doesn't really feel that way, but her answers could've been exaggerated. Not to mention she has knowledge of men most women don't have. They're just too self absorbed to think about men like she does.
Men are her work. So she'll have to know how we feel and could base her response around that. He is asking a person paid Ks per hour what they think about his beliefs. Do you think if he would have asked any other belief or opinion based question that she would have disagreed? With an escort, male or female, one must realise that the high price is for an overall experience, that ultimately, is about the end sexual experience.
Plus that's the viewpoint of a model basically.. Life when she says girls have endless guys a phone call away.. Well, girls hot enough to charge an hour probably do.. Somehow, being with a woman like that is a comforting thought. The fact that someone made it her job to please me makes me feel good. It's for the company and pleasent experience she can provide on top of it.
A call girl at her level has to be the entire package and meet all the high standards her clients require. So social ineptitude is not going to fly. I had this thought developing as I read through your post and then you nailed it far more succinctly than I could. Being a respectful, courteous, interesting, feminine lady is apparently now a rare talent worth thousands per hour. In fairness, I have no doubt that the market is almost as depressing for women seeking a confident, masculine man.
How far we've fallen Fuckin' hell bro, you're gonna send me back into the depression phase. The irony is, I wrote about how we'd become the poorest men in history. I still believe that men want more than mere wealth. We want that feeling of power, admiration, wealth, love, romance, respect etc etc. The alterations in the gender dynamics have made this almost impossible. The young boys growing up now won't just struggle economically, but they're going to struggle culturally, emotionally and intellectually.
We've allowed women to implement their race-to-the-bottom style of competition across society so completely that in some areas, the effort and reward are not just unproportional Depressing as fuck, but needs to be accepted if you're going to try and play the game. I keep having an adverse reactions to these posts, that is 'nexting' a girl. Clearly I am not completely disenchanted with the 'happily ever after' tripe. I can only speak for the women I know, yes there are rougher ones, bu tthere's also plenty of respectful, courteous, interesting and feminine women.
The rare part is all that combined with 'hot as fuck'. Combine the 2 and it's worth 's an hour. It's like that today, as it always was and always will be.
Well, maybe not with fembots.. Exactly, and now you have the push for "gender diversity" which roughly equates to creating a new field of jobs for people with 'no actual skills'. Why compete when these braindead fuckers are getting cushy gigs for doing absolutely nothing at all? And this is an example of the extortion modern men have allowed women to create a marketplace for I've found that many, many women exhibit these traits Make no mistake, the majority of what she charges comes from her body.
If she was your average skinny girl with small tits and a beer pouch she'd be charging a few hundred at best for the same service. The depressing part for me isn't that these traits are so rare for a night. Game a girl successfully who's SMV points below you and she'll act like this. I've had women offer to pay, be courteous all night, and treat me with respect.
The depressing part for me is that after just a few dates it all falls away. Just like with this woman, it's an act meant to elicit money or commitment from you while hiding her true nature.
If you want the respectful, courteous, interesting, and feminine woman, you have to be okay with the fact that you'll never have her for more than nights at a time. Buying an escort or decent backpage girl will be cost effective. Plus easier and way cheaper to trade in. If a client asks her to spend a month in Bora Bora in an ocean front villa, all expenses covered, I assume the pricing won't be as steep. At full price, a famous dude could have saved over a million bucks.
My comment is nothing more than evaluation of the monetary cost of marriage, let alone the emotional and physical costs. Additionally, you have a broader selection of partners at basically no risk since the relationships are purely on a business level so to speak. They probably cry themselves real tears when they come again and again when getting paid an hours. Why would you want to trade a perfect 10 that fast?
You get to know each other better, have deeper conversations, develope inside jokes, get more comfortable, and sex gets better. After a while, when you want something new, sure, but not that often. Op said there are price discounts: Escorts are freaking expensive, they are echo chambers and they are not including a hunting experience.
Like I said, I would rather go to a place with good hunting conditions then giving up hunting and getting the steak from some overly expensive butcher. Most escorts are nowhere near 8k. Some great content in here, it is fascinating to me that these girls have it essentially worked to a science, a "career" that is usually thought of as cheap, low budget cock sucking is actually making this girl rich, and is much more then the stereotype.
I guess nobody taught them the ways, the same as us. I guess we're the lucky ones though since we have enough awareness to realize this or at least after coming to this sub, not shun it. This blew me away. Not at all what I would have expected. Your friend must have really owed you one too btw. This really puts the current dating market in perspective. The crazy part is in regular relationships you pay for it one way or another.
Reading this begs the question, are you really getting your money's worth? And to think so many hapless guys stay in sexless marriages and for what?
Her telling about her wealthy married clients was like a sucker punch to the solar plexus. Those guys are crazy successful to be able to afford her and yet their wives can't even put out and they stick around because divorce would be too costly. Their women have them by the balls. It really is a state of affairs we've got ourselves into here boys. What an amazing date that must have been?
I can't imagine what it would be like to go on a date like that, it's never happened for me. There's always the bullshit you have to put up with. This is why I damn near feel like King Kong bc of my current wife. Actually tries really hard to take care of herself and is still very traditional role woman. I of course work out like a fiend as well as make good money and compliment her femininity so we have a good dynamic. They let themselves go and try to stick their tentacles into your bank account with whatever tools possible to control you.
It was even pre red pill for me but somehow I managed to figure out enough of this shit on my own before I actually married any of these slags. I worked a job with a group of Eastern European college kids a while back here in the US on J-1 visas. I agree the women from Eastern Europe are pretty traditional and the guys are RP as fuck. Traditional gender roles everywhere.
That's where it's at. About the only time I felt like I was part of a legit brotherhood was when I was hanging out with those guys. It's hard to find in this day and age. RP bros or gals. I'm from the US, the dating scene is pretty fucked here. An RPW is akin to a unicorn. Someday I may have to spend some time over there In my country the wallflowers sometimes are caring feminine and non-toxic.
Sadly just like women are ruined nowadays, men all expect a model girlfriend who is a virgin, which in this day and age is near impossible. That was something I also noticed in the post. Frankly, of course escorts like her are better than most women bc if they weren't, who'd pay? It's just the sheer contrast between her and the average hot babe that is sad. A hooker agreed and amplified my beliefs to make me feel mentally good before she actually fucked me. You got played, this woman deals with plenty of men whose heads she is used to manipulating, nothing new.
I've gotta agree with this guy, she's being paid to ensure you have a good time. It just lays their with it's arms and legs spread, probably bored, or possibly hating you with her vagina.
Her passivity in the experience extends beyond the bedroom e. Knowledge is free and accessible to everyone unless you live in North Korea or somewhere similar. No sympathy from me. And married her anyway. I hope you mean "feel sorry for the guy so indoctrinated he falls for this slut anyway. In some sense, I do still feel sorry for the plugged-in, but on the other hand TRP is right here.
And I'm sure we all share an experience just like mine: You can only feel sorry for someone so much before you need to realize they're lost and like it that way.
Some people create hell in order to live in it. Yes, shared a similar experience. They picked up a copy of one of male "Rational Male" books I happened to be reading. Say the phrase "avoid the Beta" in the index put down and called it garbage. If it were a friend or associate who did his I wouldn't hesitate to cut them lose. It's another when it's your older brother. The blue pill runs deep in those latched to fantasy. Is it in the sidebar or in the book of pook?
I've read all the material but I don't remember a O, unless I just forgot. Thanks for the report. Didn't read any of what the girl said because women lie, hamster, mislead and manipulate. Listening to women talk about men, women or dating is harmful to your masculine outlook due to its inherent dishonesty.
Will you be happy with normal girls ever again? Girls like this go exclusively to the wealthy and upper class rich, to be real, there are no normal girls like her available to him, or most men. Whore are just smart sluts. Remember this gentlemen, your high school ex who's doing coke in the bathroom of some club whilst getting hammered by strange cock will always be of lower value than a whore. Sluts hide their shit value while Whores are honest about who they are.
Im self sufficient and make decent money for a 25 year old but nowhere near the ability to drop 8k on anything Unnecessary. If you want a high-quality woman, who not be a high-quality man and do what it takes to get there? The thing that sticks out is what women are really capable of if they are motivated and are actually interested in what men like.
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